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Aug 6, 2025

The Industry Relations Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player!

In this episode, Rob and Greg recap Inman Connect San Diego, discuss the current state of the real estate industry, and explore the hype and utility of AI in real estate. They cover industry gossip, shifting executive roles, macroeconomic forecasts, and heated disagreements on whether AI truly enhances the client experience.

Key Takeaways

  • Inman Connect Recap
    Greg shares his experience from Inman Connect, including a pre-party at his studio and the CEO Connect session.

  • NAR Membership Projections
    Kevin Sears (NAR President) revealed current membership is ~65,000 above projections at 1.4M; however, NAR is budgeting for 1.2M members in 2026.

  • Agent Churn
    Annual agent churn is approximately 20%, meaning roughly all members cycle every five years.

  • CoStar vs. Zillow Lawsuit
    The buzz at CEO Connect centered around CoStar suing Zillow over image copyrights. Rob believes CoStar has a solid strategy involving strategic acquisitions to bolster legal claims.

  • Executive Moves
    Chris Heller moved his team to eXp; York Baur (formerly of MoxiWorks) joined Lone Wolf—highlighting industry consolidation and competition.

  • AI in Real Estate
    Greg sees promise in AI for marketing content, lead gen, and operations. Rob remains skeptical of AI’s impact on client experience, arguing that service still relies on human interaction.

  • AI Assistants and the Future
    The debate intensifies around whether AI chat or voice assistants can enhance service or erode trust in agent relationships.

  • Generational Divide on Service
    Rob emphasizes trust and high-touch service; Greg counters that efficiency and new client expectations may shift norms.

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