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Industry Relations

This is Industry Relations, a podcast that is at the intersection of real estate and technology from an insider’s perspective. Hosted weekly by Rob Hahn (The Notorious ROB) and Greg Robertson.
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Oct 2, 2024

After missing a recording last week (due to travel schedules) the boys are back with another jammed pack episode of Industry Relations.  In this week’s episode Rob and Greg discuss recent Blueprint conference in Las Vegas, CMLS 2024 in Seattle and REColorado new subscriber agreement.  And they sprinkle a little CCP talking points just for good measure.

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Pictures of Greg’s sister, Pilar, winning her own award

Pictures of Greg presenting at CMLS 2024

HousingWire post on REColorado acquisition

Greg’s take on Rob Reffkin’s CMLS 2024 interview

 

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CoreLogic

Notorious VIP

The Giant Steps Job Board

This podcast is produced by Sunbound Studios

Sep 20, 2024

On this episode of Industry Relations Rob and Greg discuss, for what seems to be the 17th time, the current rumors about the Clear Cooperation Policy. Rob recently posted a few thoughts on the subject and a few solutions to what seems to have the entire industry tied up in knots.  What they soon realize, there are no easy answers.

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CoreLogic

Notorious VIP

The Giant Steps Job Board

This podcast is produced by Sunbound Studios

Sep 11, 2024

Rob and Greg are back to their regularly scheduled broadcast!  The episode includes discussion on Landian, the new “a la carte” brokerage launched by Josh Sitzer, yes, that Sitzer.  Rob discusses his recent Sub Stack post on “Amara’s Law and Real Estate” and how we shouldn’t read too much in to how things are going with the NAR settlement.  The boys also discuss online dating, new business models, capitalism and agent count.  But somehow they bring it all together. 

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Our Sponsors: 

CoreLogic

Notorious VIP

The Giant Steps Job Board

 

This podcast is produced by Sunbound Studios

Sep 5, 2024

Greg joins Rob from Chicago where he was attending NAR's iOi Summit.  Greg gives his experience of being at the iOi Summit and discusses the pitch battle and his favorite new app, Tuesday, and its founder Cole Boyer who won "Crowd Favorite".

They go on to discuss NAR's decision to appoint Nykia Wright as their new CEO and if experience in organized real estate or connections in Washington D.C. really matter.  As you can imgaine Greg and Rob have different opinions.

They finish with discussing the ongoing rumors of the fate of Clear Cooperation Policy (CCP), a.k.a. "The Ocho".  It's a fun one!

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Connect with Rob and Greg: 

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Our Sponsors: 

CoreLogic

Notorious VIP

The Giant Steps Job Board

 

This podcast is produced by Sunbound Studios

Mar 20, 2024

Tune in to this must-listen episode of *Industry Relations* for an incisive breakdown of the NAR's landmark settlement, its ramifications, and the many lingering questions that promise to shape the discourse in real estate circles for years to come. Whether you're a real estate professional, an industry watcher, or just keen on understanding the forces shaping one of the economy's key sectors, this episode is for you.

In a pivotal episode of Industry Relations, hosts Rob Hahn and Greg Robertson dive deep into a recent seismic shift within the real estate horizon—The National Association of Realtors (NAR)'s $418 million settlement with the plaintiffs’ attorneys. A settlement like this is more than a headline; it's a precedent setter with far-reaching implications for every corner of the real estate world.

From referral networks and real estate portals to association-owned MLSs (and notably excluding non-association-owned MLSs), no stone is left unturned as Rob and Greg unpack the nuances of the settlement. With the DOJ's likely oversight and approval, the proposed settlement not only closes a chapter, but opens a discussion on the enforcement of regulations and the reinforcement of NAR membership. How will these changes ripple through the industry? What does this mean for unrepresented buyers in an increasingly opaque MLS landscape? And could this herald a new era of changes and MLS practices?

Beyond the settlement itself, this episode explores the broader implications for the real estate industry, including potential shifts in steering practices and the access to information on MLS platforms. As Rob and Greg navigate through these complex topics, they shed light on what the future may hold for realtors, MLSs, and the consumers they serve.

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This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2024.

Mar 13, 2024

What does the future hold for real estate commissions? On this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg discuss the Clarity event and the legal updates regarding real estate commissions. They explore the concept of concessions and the issue of steering in the industry, the need for improved buyer agency agreements and buyer presentations and the defiance of industry professionals and the potential impact of government regulations on real estate commissions. Rob and Greg also cover various topics related to the real estate industry, including the myth of the Australian model, the reality of real estate commissions, the relationship between MLS and NAR, and provide potential solutions to the numerous challenges and complexities of these issues. Oh, and they also brainstorm the idea of creating an app for arranged marriages called 'Tinder for Parents.' You don’t want to miss this episode!

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This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2024.

Feb 28, 2024

Who bears the brunt of legal defense costs? What financial toll does this uncertainty cast on associations? On this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg dive into the pressing issues faced by the National Association of Realtors (NAR) and its profound impact on local associations, MLSs and brokers. The insurance dilemma that has recently come to light, along with the unclear communication and lack of transparency from NAR is concerning to put it mildly.

And the conversation doesn't stop at insurance mishaps. Rob and Greg confront the broader issue plaguing the real estate industry - a competency crisis within NAR’s leadership. They share their personal frustrations and the collective agitation among realtors over how NAR has managed various crises, including a lawsuit with the Department of Justice and serious sexual harassment allegations.

The lack of skilled leadership, effective communication, and crisis navigation has not only fueled discontent but has also positioned the industry under a harsh spotlight, inviting negative media attention and dozens of copycat lawsuits. This episode is a call for leaders who can confidently steer the industry away from turmoil and towards a future led by transparency, competence, and integrity.

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This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2024.

Jan 10, 2024

What happens when a real estate giant like Zillow takes legal action against their own clients?  Things get a little complicated as Rob and Greg explore the issues of the delicate balance of being a participant, vendor and MLS organization (sometimes all at the same time!)

***Disclaimer - Due to MLS Aligned being a consulting client of Greg, the views expressed on this podcast are Greg’s opinions and DO NOT represent the views of MLS Aligned.***

Rob and Greg discuss the recent Zillow lawsuit against two MLSs, ARMLS and Metro MLS, which alleges control over technology distribution and the practical implications of not being integrated into the MLS member portal and how it affects the functionality of platforms like ShowingTime. Greg gives his own first-hand experiences with MLS system integration and Cloud CMA. They explore what could be the potential impact on competition and the challenges faced by MLSs in making integration decisions. 

And can MLS organizations choose who they do business with or not?  Mountain? Molehill? Listen to Rob and Greg try and grapple a tricky situation as only they can.

 

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This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2024.

Dec 29, 2023

It’s the time of year to reflect, predict, and make hopeless new year’s resolutions! On this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg look back on 2023 and how much the real estate industry has changed over the span of just one year. From mergers and acquisitions to lawsuits and settlements, Rob and Greg reflect on the tumultuous year that was 2023! We also hear predictions for what’s to come in the new year. Let's go!

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This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2023.

Dec 6, 2023

Should NAR be reformed? What is the role of REALTORS in the lawsuit, and the value of membership in NAR? Join Rob and Greg as they answer these questions and the potential rebirth of the REALTOR movement, the importance of authenticity in communication, and the value of REALTORS sharing their authentic stories to connect with consumers. Plus Rob and Greg throw in their own doom and gloom predictions just to shake things up. Stay up-to-date with the real estate industry with this brand new episode of Industry Relations! 

Click here for Greg’s latest blog post!

Click here for Brian’s LinkedIn post mentioned in the show!

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This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2023.

Apr 19, 2023

How can we make housing affordable for everyone? Rob and Greg explore how we can make housing more accessible and affordable for all. From creative solutions to policy changes, watch as we unpack the different strategies available to make housing affordability a reality. Tune in now to learn how you can help create a future where housing is within reach! 

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This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2023.

Dec 7, 2022

Is Zillow turning into the Craigslist of real estate? Just how accurate is the data on MLS websites, and should consumers be given a guarantee of accuracy? From predicting a possible depression to come in 2023 to debating the irrationality of lightsabers, this episode of Industry Relations covers the need-to-know issues in today’s real estate industry. Let’s go!

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Thank you to our sponsor: RentSpree

Visit https://www.rentspree.com/ for more information!

Read more about RentSpree’s expansion in the rental market here: https://www.rentspree.com/insights/the-untapped-money-potential-of-the-rental-market

This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2022

Nov 30, 2022

Is there anything Rob and Greg can’t banter about? Turns out, not really! In this special episode of Industry Relations, our two real estate gurus take a break from debating MLS, Zillow, and the housing market, and turn their attention to something far more important (or, at least more fun): the greatest movies of all time! And as one could presume, the debate gets quite heated. 

 

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Thank you to our sponsor: RentSpree

Visit https://www.rentspree.com/ for more information!

Read more about RentSpree’s expansion in the rental market here: https://www.rentspree.com/insights/the-untapped-money-potential-of-the-rental-market

This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2022

Oct 5, 2022

So, the partnership between two real estate juggernauts has come crashing down. What happens next? CoStar and BPP have agreed to not pursue a partnership that would have helped create a national listing site to compete against third-party portals like Zillow; however, dreams can often turn to nightmares, and reality can often be worse than both. As Greg is on the road, this episode features some quick commentary from Rob on the partnership gone awry and what consequences lie ahead.

Industry Relations is sponsored by NoteRouter

Industry Relations welcomes our new sponsor Earnnest

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This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2022

Aug 24, 2022

Big news! Adam Neumann is back and lands a huge $350 million deal with Andreessen Horowitz. Is this the beginning of the disruption Rob and Greg have been talking about? When companies are laying people off what is the impact of this deal? 

Rob and Greg explore these questions and what the big vision is for Adam Neumann’s company, Flow. We revisit last episode’s Opendoor and Zillow conversation and why Greg believes Rob is still wrong about it all. 

Also, Rob dug up 10 years of REALTOR numbers and scale of success for the real estate industry will surprise you!

It’s a jam packed episode you can not miss!

Link to MLS Tech Forum: 

https://members.lasvegasrealtor.com/news/2022-mls-tech-forum/panelists

Industry Relations is sponsored by NoteRouter at https://www.noterouter.com/

Industry Relations welcomes our new sponsor Earnnest at https://earnnest.com/

Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms:

Listen to the podcast on Apple

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/industry-relations/id1204450450

Listen to the podcast on Stitcher

https://www.stitcher.com/show/industry-relations

Connect with Rob and Greg: 

Rob’s Website

https://notorious-rob.com/

Greg’s Website

https://www.vendoralley.com/

Our Sponsors: 

NoteRouter

https://www.noterouter.com/

Cloud MLX

https://cloudagentsuite.com/tools/mlx

Notorious VIP

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