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Industry Relations

This is Industry Relations, a podcast that is at the intersection of real estate and technology from an insider’s perspective. Hosted weekly by Rob Hahn (The Notorious ROB) and Greg Robertson.
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Dec 28, 2022

What were some major events in the real estate industry in 2022? Want to know which event has Rob and Greg betting a steak dinner? Or why Rob believes MLS needs to approach a prepper mindset? In this episode Rob and Greg follow-up on last week’s episode and go further into the weeds on what happened in 2022. Join us as we wrap up and do a full review of 2022.

 

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Connect with Rob and Greg: 

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Thank you to our sponsor: RentSpree

Visit https://www.rentspree.com/ for more information!

Read more about RentSpree’s expansion in the rental market here: https://www.rentspree.com/insights/the-untapped-money-potential-of-the-rental-market

This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2022

Dec 21, 2022

What was the most important thing and had the biggest impact in the world of real estate in 2022? Was it the Northwest MLS’s rules and forms update or the lackluster year for home sales? Rob and Greg are joined by two very special guests, Greg Fischer and Joe Rand. They share their top highlights of the year and for the first time on Industry Relations; stare into the crystal ball and make some bold 2023 real estate predictions.

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Connect with Rob and Greg: 

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Thank you to our sponsor: RentSpree

Brokers and agents are leaving money on the table by ignoring rentals. Read RentSpree's whitepaper on this untapped opportunity in a booming segment of the industry.
https://www.rentspree.com/insights/the-untapped-money-potential-of-the-rental-market
 
Visit https://www.rentspree.com/ for more information!

This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2022

Dec 14, 2022

Realtors assemble! As Greg returns from the National Association of Realtors Expo in Orlando, he and Rob discuss trends going into the new year. From unsettling problems such as the hike in first-time homebuyer age and income, to the currently topsy-turvy world of vendors and MLSes, buckle up for what Rob is predicting will be “a crucible” for real estate in the year ahead.

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Connect with Rob and Greg: 

Rob’s Website

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Thank you to our sponsor: RentSpree

Brokers and agents are leaving money on the table by ignoring rentals. Read RentSpree's whitepaper on this untapped opportunity in a booming segment of the industry.
https://www.rentspree.com/insights/the-untapped-money-potential-of-the-rental-market
 
Visit https://www.rentspree.com/ for more information!

This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2022

Dec 7, 2022

Is Zillow turning into the Craigslist of real estate? Just how accurate is the data on MLS websites, and should consumers be given a guarantee of accuracy? From predicting a possible depression to come in 2023 to debating the irrationality of lightsabers, this episode of Industry Relations covers the need-to-know issues in today’s real estate industry. Let’s go!

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Connect with Rob and Greg: 

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Thank you to our sponsor: RentSpree

Visit https://www.rentspree.com/ for more information!

Read more about RentSpree’s expansion in the rental market here: https://www.rentspree.com/insights/the-untapped-money-potential-of-the-rental-market

This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2022

Nov 30, 2022

Is there anything Rob and Greg can’t banter about? Turns out, not really! In this special episode of Industry Relations, our two real estate gurus take a break from debating MLS, Zillow, and the housing market, and turn their attention to something far more important (or, at least more fun): the greatest movies of all time! And as one could presume, the debate gets quite heated. 

 

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Connect with Rob and Greg: 

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Thank you to our sponsor: RentSpree

Visit https://www.rentspree.com/ for more information!

Read more about RentSpree’s expansion in the rental market here: https://www.rentspree.com/insights/the-untapped-money-potential-of-the-rental-market

This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2022

Nov 23, 2022

Realtors assemble! As Greg returns from the National Association of Realtors Expo in Orlando, he and Rob discuss trends going into the new year. From unsettling problems such as the hike in first-time homebuyer age and income, to the currently topsy-turvy world of vendors and MLSes, buckle up for what Rob is predicting will be “a crucible” for real estate in the year ahead.

Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast across all podcast platforms!

Listen to the podcast on Apple

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Connect with Rob and Greg: 

Rob’s Website

Greg’s Website

Thank you to our sponsor: RentSpree

Brokers and agents are leaving money on the table by ignoring rentals. Read RentSpree's whitepaper on this untapped opportunity in a booming segment of the industry.
https://www.rentspree.com/insights/the-untapped-money-potential-of-the-rental-market
 
Visit https://www.rentspree.com/ for more information!

This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2022

Nov 16, 2022

Earnings call season is upon us! In this episode Rob and Greg go beyond the headlines and share their early reactions ro Zillow and Opendoor’s Q3 reports. With everybody laying off their staff and the market leveling out; why Rob believes some right moves are being made and why Greg believes Q4 and 2023 will be a hunker down year. 

Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast across all podcast platforms!

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Connect with Rob and Greg: 

Rob’s Website

Greg’s Website

Thank you to our sponsor: RentSpree

Brokers and agents are leaving money on the table by ignoring rentals. Read RentSpree's whitepaper on this untapped opportunity in a booming segment of the industry.
https://www.rentspree.com/insights/the-untapped-money-potential-of-the-rental-market
 
Visit https://www.rentspree.com/ for more information!

This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2022

Nov 9, 2022

What is happening with the Broker Public Portal and why do you need to know? After divorcing CoStar, could this be the start of BPP 2.0, or is it really just the MLS Public Portal 1.0? This episode features an insider’s perspective on what a new Broker Public Portal could look like, how it’s different from ZillowKiller.com and Homes.com, and what separates this from an MLS Public Portal?

Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast across all podcast platforms!

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Connect with Rob and Greg: 

Rob’s Website

Greg’s Website

Thank you to our sponsor: RentSpree

Visit https://www.rentspree.com/ for more information!

Read more about RentSpree’s expansion in the rental market here: Miami announcement

More on RentSpree Here: https://www.rentspree.com/insights/the-untapped-money-potential-of-the-rental-market

This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2022

Nov 2, 2022

It’s the rise of CoStar! From commercial to residential real estate, shocking Q3 earnings, and antitrust lawsuits, CoStar could be making some transformational deals in the near future that may have a serious impact on the marketplace. In this episode, Rob and Greg discuss Andy Florance’s motivation going into Q4 and what potential deals are on the table for CoStar.

Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast across all podcast platforms!

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Connect with Rob and Greg: 

Rob’s Website

Greg’s Website

Thank you to our sponsor: RentSpree

Visit https://www.rentspree.com/ for more information!

Read more about RentSpree’s expansion in the rental market here: Miami announcement 

This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2022

Oct 26, 2022

You can buy as much land in the Metaverse as you want, but that won’t help you when it’s raining. You need an actual roof over your head. When it comes to long-term success for any industry, do we need to put more value in “real” things? For decades, the market has been placing more and more value on the intangible rather than what’s real and necessary, and Rob and Greg dive into how they believe that’s about to change and what it means for the real estate industry.

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This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2022

Oct 19, 2022

It was the breakup heard around the real estate world! CoStar and BPP split, so what does that mean for the industry? This episode features an in-depth look at what CoStar is really up to and what that could mean for the MLS. Rob and Greg are back together again after a couple weeks apart, but the intensity has not wavered one bit! Could CoStar be waiting for government intervention? Is the MLS currently in jeopardy? Is real estate doomsday really right around the corner? It’s time for a brawl (at least, that’s what Greg thinks), and we have the insight you need to stay informed.

Oct 12, 2022

In this throwback episode, Rob and Greg discuss Opendoor and the “Game of Homes” – should you be able to sell and buy a home as easily as you can sell and buy things on other websites like Amazon? Opendoor’s new approach could cause some waves in the industry as they appear to be removing certain hurdles that for years have impeded the home buying and selling process. Does the MLS industry need to change, and could Opendoor be the catalyst for that change? Rob and Greg break it all down in this heated discussion!

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Connect with Rob and Greg: 

Rob’s Website

https://notorious-rob.com/

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https://www.vendoralley.com/

Oct 5, 2022

So, the partnership between two real estate juggernauts has come crashing down. What happens next? CoStar and BPP have agreed to not pursue a partnership that would have helped create a national listing site to compete against third-party portals like Zillow; however, dreams can often turn to nightmares, and reality can often be worse than both. As Greg is on the road, this episode features some quick commentary from Rob on the partnership gone awry and what consequences lie ahead.

Industry Relations is sponsored by NoteRouter

Industry Relations welcomes our new sponsor Earnnest

Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast across all podcast platforms!

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Connect with Rob and Greg: 

Rob’s Website

Greg’s Website

Our Sponsors: 

NoteRouter

Cloud MLX

Notorious VIP

This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2022

Sep 28, 2022

Real estate is changing faster than ever before, so what do you need to know now to prepare for the pitfalls ahead? Enter Spencer Rascoff, co-founder of Zillow and Pacaso and considered by many to be the next Gary Keller of real estate. A PropTech guru, Rascoff discusses the past, present, and future of property technology, what to watch out for, and how to find success in the ever-changing world of real estate.

More with Spencer Rascoff!

Industry Relations is sponsored by NoteRouter

Industry Relations welcomes our new sponsor Earnnest

Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast across all podcast platforms!

Listen to the podcast on Apple

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Connect with Rob and Greg: 

Rob’s Website

Greg’s Website

Our Sponsors: 

NoteRouter

Cloud MLX

Notorious VIP

This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2022

Sep 21, 2022

Buyers paying their own commission – is this a catastrophe or an opportunity? Do buyers know how their agents get paid? How much money is actually going where it’s supposed to go when it comes to buying real estate? Industry leaders Rob Hahn and Greg Robertson share their insight on MLS and the future of the real estate market. On stage and in front of a live audience at the MLS Tech Forum in Las Vegas, this is a special presentation from the industry's most influential podcast. 

Special shout out to Stephanie Hill of the Greater Las Vegas Assn. of REALTORS and MLS Board Chairman, Rich Robledo for making this happen.

Industry Relations is sponsored by NoteRouter

Industry Relations welcomes our new sponsor Earnnest

Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast across all podcast platforms!

Listen to the podcast on Apple

Listen to the podcast on Stitcher

Connect with Rob and Greg: 

Rob’s Website

Greg’s Website

Our Sponsors: 

NoteRouter

Cloud MLX

Notorious VIP

This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2022

Sep 14, 2022

What does the future of pocket listings look like? Alive and well, or well…dead? What has more of an impact on pocket listings: the MLS or the internet? In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg discuss Bright MLS' recent study and try to predict the future of pocket listings, how to reach the “right buyer,” and whether or not marketing to a more exclusive clientele is really worth it in the end. Could this be the death knell of pocket listings, or is this just another example of the market being the market?

Industry Relations is sponsored by NoteRouter at https://www.noterouter.com/

Industry Relations welcomes our new sponsor Earnnest at https://earnnest.com/

Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms:

Listen to the podcast on Apple

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/industry-relations/id1204450450

Listen to the podcast on Stitcher

https://www.stitcher.com/show/industry-relations

Connect with Rob and Greg: 

Rob’s Website

https://notorious-rob.com/

Greg’s Website

https://www.vendoralley.com/

Our Sponsors: 

NoteRouter

https://www.noterouter.com/

Cloud MLX

https://cloudagentsuite.com/tools/mlx

Notorious VIP

https://notoriousrob.com/notorious-vip/

 

Sep 7, 2022

Will the next Gary Keller please stand up?! Rob and Greg discuss who has the potential to be the next Gary Keller? What does it take to establish yourself as a powerhouse in real estate? What qualities does Gary Keller have that upcoming leaders of the industry are lacking? 

From narrowing down the next real estate superstar to discussing Compass’ implosion to examining the rise in inflation and profits compared to the stagnation of income, Rob and Greg get heated on the topic of: “Why should a company pay its employees more if they’re not being more productive?”

Industry Relations is sponsored by NoteRouter at https://www.noterouter.com/

Industry Relations welcomes our new sponsor Earnnest at https://earnnest.com/

Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms:

Listen to the podcast on Apple

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/industry-relations/id1204450450

Listen to the podcast on Stitcher

https://www.stitcher.com/show/industry-relations

Connect with Rob and Greg: 

Rob’s Website

https://notorious-rob.com/

Greg’s Website

https://www.vendoralley.com/

Our Sponsors: 

NoteRouter

https://www.noterouter.com/

Cloud MLX

https://cloudagentsuite.com/tools/mlx

Notorious VIP

https://notoriousrob.com/notorious-vip/

Quotes: 

Rob: “As an anarchist, I want the government out, but more from an economic standpoint. It has to be production, right? If they’re creating ten widgets a week today, they have to be able to create 11 next week.”

Rob: “You can pay people more if that’s going to make them more productive. Without an increase in productivity, why would you pay someone more?”

Rob: “The point that I’m making is it feels like unicorn, reality-denying, socialist bullshit to be like, ‘corporations should just pay people more.’ You can’t just pay people more; there has to be some connection productivity.”

Aug 24, 2022

Big news! Adam Neumann is back and lands a huge $350 million deal with Andreessen Horowitz. Is this the beginning of the disruption Rob and Greg have been talking about? When companies are laying people off what is the impact of this deal? 

Rob and Greg explore these questions and what the big vision is for Adam Neumann’s company, Flow. We revisit last episode’s Opendoor and Zillow conversation and why Greg believes Rob is still wrong about it all. 

Also, Rob dug up 10 years of REALTOR numbers and scale of success for the real estate industry will surprise you!

It’s a jam packed episode you can not miss!

Link to MLS Tech Forum: 

https://members.lasvegasrealtor.com/news/2022-mls-tech-forum/panelists

Industry Relations is sponsored by NoteRouter at https://www.noterouter.com/

Industry Relations welcomes our new sponsor Earnnest at https://earnnest.com/

Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms:

Listen to the podcast on Apple

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/industry-relations/id1204450450

Listen to the podcast on Stitcher

https://www.stitcher.com/show/industry-relations

Connect with Rob and Greg: 

Rob’s Website

https://notorious-rob.com/

Greg’s Website

https://www.vendoralley.com/

Our Sponsors: 

NoteRouter

https://www.noterouter.com/

Cloud MLX

https://cloudagentsuite.com/tools/mlx

Notorious VIP

https://notoriousrob.com/notorious-vip/

Aug 17, 2022

It’s the partnership everyone’s talking about: Zillow and Opendoor. But who is the bigger winner? Rob and Greg have a bit of a different opinion on who is getting the most out of this deal and how the FTC will play a big factor going forward.

With Zillow’s massive audience now having access to Opendoor’s instant cash offers and iBuying platform, is the real estate market on the verge of a major change, or is this new business deal just the latest trend? Rob and Greg break down the pros and cons of this major partnership.

Industry Relations is sponsored by NoteRouter

Industry Relations welcomes our new sponsor Earnnest 

Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms:

Listen to the podcast on Apple

Listen to the podcast on Stitcher

Connect with Rob and Greg: 

Rob’s Website

Greg’s Website

Our Sponsors: 

NoteRouter

Cloud MLX

Notorious VIP

Aug 3, 2022

Rob and Greg discuss Northwest MLS’s new listing agreement. They talk about why companies should start training now and do what Northwest MLS is doing. Rob and Greg roleplay what scenarios agents can expect. Also, Greg compliments Rob on his trap laying skills and why a lot of results end up the same. 

Industry Relations welcomes our new sponsor, NoteRouter at https://www.noterouter.com/

Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms:

Listen to the podcast on Apple

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/industry-relations/id1204450450

Listen to the podcast on Stitcher

https://www.stitcher.com/show/industry-relations

Connect with Rob and Greg: 

Rob’s Website

https://notorious-rob.com/

Greg’s Website

https://www.vendoralley.com/

Our Sponsors: 

NoteRouter

https://www.noterouter.com/

Cloud MLX

https://cloudagentsuite.com/tools/mlx

Notorious VIP

https://notoriousrob.com/notorious-vip/

Jul 27, 2022

How much does the economy affect the housing market? Or do we buy and sell homes based on what’s happening in our individual lives more than what’s happening on Wall Street? In this episode, Rob Hahn and guest host Keith Robinson talk about the rollercoaster that is real estate, if there ever was a stable housing market, and how authenticity can be the deciding factor in whether or not an agent has long term success. 

Industry Relations welcomes our new sponsor, NoteRouter at https://www.noterouter.com/

Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms:

Listen to the podcast on Apple

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/industry-relations/id1204450450

Listen to the podcast on Stitcher

https://www.stitcher.com/show/industry-relations

Connect with Rob and Greg: 

Rob’s Website

https://notorious-rob.com/

Greg’s Website

https://www.vendoralley.com/

Our Sponsors: 

NoteRouter

https://www.noterouter.com/

Cloud MLX

https://cloudagentsuite.com/tools/mlx

Notorious VIP

https://notoriousrob.com/notorious-vip/

 

Jul 20, 2022

Inflation is known to follow housing trends. Rob and Greg discuss the unpredictability of today’s market and why costs are bloating. What steps need to be taken? Are our hierarchy of needs where they should be? Why investors should look longterm. Greg tiptoes on an ominous path and Rob reveals why he bets the dark side.

Industry Relations welcomes our new sponsor, NoteRouter at https://www.noterouter.com/

Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms:

Listen to the podcast on Apple

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/industry-relations/id1204450450

Listen to the podcast on Stitcher

https://www.stitcher.com/show/industry-relations

Connect with Rob and Greg: 

Rob’s Website

https://notorious-rob.com/

Greg’s Website

https://www.vendoralley.com/

Our Sponsors: 

NoteRouter

https://www.noterouter.com/

Cloud MLX

https://cloudagentsuite.com/tools/mlx

Notorious VIP

https://notoriousrob.com/notorious-vip/

Jul 13, 2022

Sometimes that dead horse you’re beating turns out not to be that dead. In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg break down the recent lawsuits that are popping up in the Midwest and how they’re going to affect real estate. Could buyers be forced to pay their agent’s commission? If you sold a house in the last nine years, could you be subject to compensation? Is the sky really falling or are Rob and Greg’s predictions coming to fruition? 

Link Greg mentioned: www.https://realestatecommissionfacts.com/

Industry Relations welcomes our new sponsor, NoteRouter at https://www.noterouter.com/

Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms:

Listen to the podcast on Apple

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/industry-relations/id1204450450

Listen to the podcast on Stitcher

https://www.stitcher.com/show/industry-relations

Connect with Rob and Greg: 

Rob’s Website

https://notorious-rob.com/

Greg’s Website

https://www.vendoralley.com/

Our Sponsors: 

NoteRouter

https://www.noterouter.com/

Cloud MLX

https://cloudagentsuite.com/tools/mlx

Notorious VIP

https://notoriousrob.com/notorious-vip/

Jul 6, 2022

In this episode, Rob and Greg discuss Opendoor and the “Game of Homes” – should you be able to sell and buy a home as easily as you can sell and buy things on other websites like Amazon? Opendoor’s new approach could cause some waves in the industry as they appear to be removing certain hurdles that for years have impeded the home buying and selling process. Does the MLS industry need to change, and could Opendoor be the catalyst for that change? Rob and Greg break it all down in this heated discussion!

Industry Relations welcomes our new sponsor, NoteRouter at https://www.noterouter.com/

Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms:

Listen to the podcast on Apple

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/industry-relations/id1204450450

Listen to the podcast on Stitcher

https://www.stitcher.com/show/industry-relations

Connect with Rob and Greg: 

Rob’s Website

https://notorious-rob.com/

Greg’s Website

https://www.vendoralley.com/

Our Sponsors: 

NoteRouter

https://www.noterouter.com/

Cloud MLX

https://cloudagentsuite.com/tools/mlx

Notorious VIP

https://notoriousrob.com/notorious-vip/

Jun 29, 2022

This week on Industry Relations, Rob and Greg are joined by Rob Chrane of Down Payment Solution. Rob brings his thirty-plus years of experience to the table. They talk about the many programs that are available that people are missing out on and what paths can be taken to afford a home in today’s market.

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Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms:

Listen to the podcast on Apple

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/industry-relations/id1204450450

Listen to the podcast on Stitcher

https://www.stitcher.com/show/industry-relations

Connect with Rob and Greg: 

Rob’s Website

https://notorious-rob.com/

Greg’s Website

https://www.vendoralley.com/

Our Sponsors: 

Cloud MLX

https://cloudagentsuite.com/tools/mlx

Notorious VIP

https://notoriousrob.com/notorious-vip/

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